SSDC Game Forum - Blood Dawn's Fate?

07/26/08 at 7:02am

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So what is going on with Blood Dawn? Is it being reprinted, and or revised? I have a copy, but it always felt incomplete (though the setting was one of the best apoc settings I have come across).

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Reply #1 - 09/22/08 at 6:53pm

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I too would be interested to know what is up with this setting. I remember you saying that you had a contract with someone to update it and convert it to d100. Did that fall through? Are we in limbo again?

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Reply #2 - 01/02/09 at 6:41pm

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We are unfortunately in limbo again. The expected conversion hasn't happened. I have an outline in my head of how to rewrite portions of it so it can be made into an alternate Battlelords setting. It would be an alternate timeline setting using B'Lords rules. All of the stats of the equipment would need to be redone and the combat system would be removed and it would use the B'Lords system. I think we would keep the skill system that Blood Dawn has which would become an alternate solution for Battlelords gaining skills without formal schools.

I suspect this project is more work than it initially appeared to be. Perhaps my first job will be to pry all of the content out of the old Quark Xpress files and make it more easily available.

Michael Osadciw, SSDC Partner, Art Director

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Reply #3 - 01/14/09 at 2:48pm

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I would love to see a conversion/crossover book made for translating Battlelords to Blood Dawn. I'm currently starting a capaign that has the long term goal of the PC's eventually becoming a "Rook" team as employees of a corp I made. I pln on just converting most everything to fit into the BL rules set to keep it simpler for the players and since the tour of duty in the BD universe won't be more than a year or 2 I figure skills shouldn't be too big an issue to leave as they are under the BL rules set figuring the Collective/Corp will provide the training/schooling for new skills or increasing existing ones.
Mainly what I would love to see are rules or at least more description for some of the interesting things mentioned in the Blood Dawn core book but arn't defined well. Such as psycic jungles and steel embryos(stats would be awesome, I'm figuring on usuing borged out Ibots for a general template since I got nothing to go with).
Really any tidbits would be great. And if you're looking for any help or input I'd love to help.

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Reply #4 - 01/23/09 at 9:02am

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Again: Why an alternative timeline? Why not make Blood Dawn a "planet setting" within the BL universe.

– Take a terra-like planet with an almost 100% human colonization (that maybe even doesn't know that it's planet ain't Earth (talk about Mutzachan experiments – you know, all these "abductions" the "Greys" have been doing for millenia)

– Let some nukes go "nuke"

– Let the Alliance/Mutz seal off the planet (quarantine, punishment)

– Voilà: Instant Blood Dawn

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Reply #5 - 01/23/09 at 12:32pm

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Because that would actually undermine Blood Dawn's importance. The point to it is that the characters are fighting for Humanity's future. If it were just another planet of people, the outcome wouldn't be as detrimental. I think it would be served even more if its relationship to the BL universe were downplayed further.
The closer you relate Blood Dawn to Battlelords the more players will be inclined to just try getting off-planet instead of fixing things, or solving problems with sci-fi tech instead of waste tech.

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Reply #6 - 01/24/09 at 12:44am

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My feeling is you can go from BL to BD but not vice versa. I can see running a BL group with alot of experience and with a proven track record as a rook team but I can't see any reason to take "primatives" into the future. For the game I'm running with the plan of sending the players back to the BD setting I've just adjusted the timeline of my BL game to reflect the rebuilding of earth to interstellar ability along with a bit of help from the Muzzies. I'm still debating on what to do about the fate of mutations. I'm not sure if i want to open up the mutant races from BD into BL or not. I've had some ideas ranging from the "chosen ones" banishing the mutants to a "concentration planet" thus removing them from play without them having been wiped out to allowing them to have been wiped out in the past as part of humanity's rebuilding. Probably won't matter much in terms of gameplay but ya never know when someone whants to know how things came to be.

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Reply #7 - 04/06/10 at 2:51am

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i think there is precedent for both to exist

Well (for whatever DM given reason) A Motaran Rift space time dilation Quantum Ribbon backlash could have swept across the Earth (or perhaps the entire solar system)
Maybe due to the Mutzachan presence in the system?, or a gravity sheer misfire or malfunction ripping space/time fabric for a moment

anyway- as the Ribbon passed over Earth (or the system) perhaps the whole area momentarily got caught in the Motaran Rift. The Earth returned to normal space and then progressed into the Battlelords timeline.

However- as the Rift exists outside of space time- Earth is still 'there' as a Ghost Rift World

the environment effected everyone psychologically on a subconscious level, and then WW3 broke out. Then the Blood Dawn timeline progresses.

The flying saucers could be Mutzachans studying the phenomena, or that have become 'trapped' in the quasi-real state.

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Reply #8 - 04/06/10 at 4:39pm

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That could then allow for the occasional ship to interact with it or crazsh on to it with lots of technology, however without the know-how of reconstructing it properly and the few survivors aligning with either the mutant group or the government.

Also for this to work it would have to be one way, a feature of the planet since it was warped into the rift is that nothing can leave once it enters a certain distance (say within distance of the moon) from the planet surface. This would account for some tech infusion, sporadically and not usually working since the rift has a natural detrimental effect on such things, and why no one has left.

Which is there new word on the status of BD?

Clayton 'Darkasonar' Butler BS Aerospace Engineering

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Reply #9 - 04/27/10 at 8:58pm

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Actually Battlelords has precedent to allow for either option to work Darkasonar13.

If a BM feels that no one can 'get in or out' or can only enter but not escape beyond a certain distance from Earth's surface then Blood Dawn's Earth would exist as a Ghost Planet [p.82, No Man's land].

If a BM wants to allow the glimmer for possible escape then Blood Dawn's Earth is a Shade/Shadow World [p.82 No Man's land]

Further reading:
Rift Worlds entry- [p.18-19, Hell's Kitchen]
The Shade World Connection entry- [p.23, Hell's Kitchen]

If a BM wishes to have a crossover event between the two settings this is also possible- just because players visit and may even escape- it does not mean they may ever find their way back there again- Only the Mutzachans and Arachnids can successfully navigate the Rift and even then, no one said it was 100%.

Darkasonar13 wrote on 04/06/10 at 4:39pm:

That could then allow for the occasional ship to interact with it or crash on to it with lots of technology, however without the know-how of reconstructing it properly and the few survivors aligning with either the mutant group or the government.

Also for this to work it would have to be one way, a feature of the planet since it was warped into the rift is that nothing can leave once it enters a certain distance (say within distance of the moon) from the planet surface. This would account for some tech infusion, sporadically and not usually working since the rift has a natural detrimental effect on such things, and why no one has left.

Which is there new word on the status of BD?

Andrew Bator&&Chief Operations Officer&&Athena Virtual Productions, Inc.&&http://www.AVPIworld.com

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Reply #10 - 05/04/10 at 3:14pm

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Our current plan is (was) to transform Blood Dawn into a Battlelords campaign setting. The idea was that that Earth was an alternate timeline created by Uncle Ernie to let him develop new creatures and use Earth (or an Earth) as his testing ground. Then he got that Earth stuck in the Rift to stabilize the timeline. This way you could run it as a Battlelords campaign or as a standallone RPG and throw some sci-fi in when needed.

Recreating BD as a supplement unfortunately means that it's whole system needs to be reworked to fit with Battlelords. We need a writer to do that and it just hasn't happened yet. I'd like to do something with it, but our writing resources are limited.

Michael Osadciw, SSDC Partner, Art Director

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Reply #11 - 05/14/10 at 3:38pm

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I'll ask some of my old gamer friends. If any are interested I'll have them get on the forum and mention it.

Clayton 'Darkasonar' Butler BS Aerospace Engineering

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