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11/17/09 at 2:52pm

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I think I posted about this before, but I couldn't find the thread so I'm doing it again.

Anyway, I am working on the first two sets of Battlelords paper minis. One is all of the races from the main rulebook dressed in streetclothes, male and female (plus Nog in the case of Eridani, and two mazians in their case), and all of the NPC races from NML (male and female) dressed in street clothes as well. As I work on the art I am thinking about scale and their use. The images will all be proportional to each other so I'm thinking of using the 25mm miniature scale as a "standard." A human character's drawing would be about an inch and a quarter (3cm?) high. I think these will fit on standard 1" hex map mats.

Will that scale fit in well with our gaming environments?

We have loads of ideas for other sets including all of the races in the game both in and out of armor, creatures, corpses, and other stuff. The release date is uncertain as I my drawing time is limited due to the recent addition of a baby (future Battlelords player) to the family. They will be released as PDFs and will include a sheet of the drawings illustrated in color, a version with the drawings as line art so you can color them any way you want, and some blanks to draw on them yourself. Currently they will be three sided, with one side being blank to write the name of the character or notes on. First set of releases will fill out the rest of the PC races.

Does this sound interesting at all?

Thanks.

Mike
 

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Reply #1 - 11/17/09 at 7:34pm

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FlipFriddle wrote on 11/17/09 at 2:52pm:
Anyway, I am working on the first two sets of Battlelords paper minis. One is all of the races from the main rulebook dressed in streetclothes,


What? No armor and weapons? I thought this was BATTLElords. Smiley

FlipFriddle wrote on 11/17/09 at 2:52pm:
images will all be proportional to each other so I'm thinking of using the 25mm miniature scale as a "standard." A human character's drawing would be about an inch and a quarter (3cm?) high. I think these will fit on standard 1" hex map mats.

Will that scale fit in well with our gaming environments?


Yes, that will fit.  I think you're stuck with the size.  15mm is going to make SC1 critters WAY TO SMALL and 30mm will work fine, but if you're going to scale, then human characters are going to end up being around 25mm anyway.  That being said I think at 25mm humans will be closer to 2.5cm.   2.5cm = 1 inch.  Rams may end up being 3cm (30mm) or larger, but humans shouldn't be.

In any event, the BL range brackets make minis difficult to use -regardless of scale - for anything beyond RB4 or 5, depending on how large your table is.

FlipFriddle wrote on 11/17/09 at 2:52pm:
as I my drawing time is limited due to the recent addition of a baby (future Battlelords player) to the family.

Congrats if I haven't already said it!

FlipFriddle wrote on 11/17/09 at 2:52pm:
a version with the drawings as line art so you can color them any way you want


I have difficulty coloring inside the lines. Smiley


FlipFriddle wrote on 11/17/09 at 2:52pm:
Does this sound interesting at all?


Yes!
 

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Reply #2 - 11/18/09 at 12:03am

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I had worked on some paper minis for myself.  I had copied the image of the racial size comparison from the Core Rulebook (gray scale).  Cropped each race, then rescaled them to ~25mm and printed a cutout front and back so it could folded into a standup with a base.  Needs a little weight to stay upright well, but works well and its cheap.
 

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Reply #3 - 11/18/09 at 12:25am

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Are these to be simple front and back standups or 3d box views with side views and maybe a top one as well?
 

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Reply #4 - 11/18/09 at 3:45am

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Mine are 2-sided tepees.
 

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Reply #5 - 11/18/09 at 2:36pm

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Since the time involved once the art is done is minimal, I think I may provide them in two styles, 2-sided teepees, which can be folded and inserted into standard bases if you want, and the three sided columns. The three sided ones will provide a blank third side that the player can write stuff on if they want; the blank side is the "back" of the figure, and the other two sides with art form a point which allows you to indicate the facing of the person.

Warmonger is right that the ranges of most firefights in the game make miniatures rules not very useful but I've found them incredibly useful in scenarios with lots of NPCs or where you need to know where people are and if they are behind stuff.

Yes, no weapons yet. I wanted to provide images of what all of the male and female races looked like, before I covered them up with armor. Who would think that Warmonger would only want armored minis... Smiley That's for the next set.
 

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Reply #6 - 11/18/09 at 3:25pm

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My group already knows what unarmored aliens look like... they usually look like they're taking a nap, while lying face down in the dirt and riddled with holes. Smiley
 

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Reply #7 - 11/18/09 at 4:21pm

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See, you are already ready for the "Corpse" set of paper minis. Various dead, destroyed, dismembered beings and the occasional grease spot or ash pile. Easy to cut out since they are all flat!
 

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Reply #8 - 11/18/09 at 4:22pm

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I'm not sure most people will have a printer big enough for the Suck-2-B-U. Maybe I'll just draw one foot and leave the rest to the imagination.
 

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Reply #9 - 11/19/09 at 7:55pm

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8.5" x 11" folded in half horizontally, and then turned on it's side will give you a "V-shaped" 8.5" tall paper mini.  No back, but you could do left and right and have the fold "point" towards it's direction of facing.  8.5" tall equates to about 51 FEET in height. Smiley  The revised UE stats place the SUCS2BU at around 100m.  ... so you could get from the crotch down.

On the plus side that means you could, in theory, fit every other critter in UE and all the ultra-armors into the 8.5" x 11" format... even if some of them would take up a single piece of paper all by themselves.

The tallest (next to the SUCS2BU) is the Peacemaker HD, which is 25 feet tall (4" tall in mini scale).  The longest in the Eliminex land cruiser with is about 25 feet long (4" long in mini scale).  You're typically Sau-Bau stands at about 12 feet tall (2" in mini-scale). 

As far as corpses go, you have to have the guy with the really surprised look on his face and the plasma hole through the center of his chest and the one that's nothing but a black, scorched, outline of where the victim used to be standing. 

 

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Reply #10 - 11/19/09 at 7:57pm

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...and before you ask, yes, I have the height/length and weight of EVERY race (PC and NPC), HAL,  and vehicle in the books in a spreadsheet.  I need to know them ALL to make sure the size-class chart for the new Uncle Ernies was consistent. Smiley

Hey... i'm thorough. Smiley
 

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Reply #11 - 11/19/09 at 8:35pm

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you are thorough

And thanks for mentioning the Humpties... I hadn't thought of them. I hope I have them in color...
 

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Reply #12 - 11/22/09 at 3:13pm

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Congrats on the baby!!

Yes the mini's would be most welcome.  I would want both the 2d and 3d sets myself .  I like the idea of having mini's for the vehicles as well, my groups often deal with shifting the size of the hexes in combat (when we use mini's which isn't too often only large fights with lots of people and cover) and having appropriate minis for vehicles would be awesome.
 

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Reply #13 - 11/23/09 at 2:28pm

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Good idea. I'll fiddle with those after the first batch.
 

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Reply #14 - 11/23/09 at 4:37pm

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Yeah, if the vehicles were 3D boxes that you fold together (held in place by tabs) from cardstock print-outs that would be WICKED KEWL!!!
 

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